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Old 11-14-11, 10:25 AM
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Are you not in contact with Denise anymore? I don't ever see posts between you two on FB and I was just wondering.
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Old 11-14-11, 10:55 AM
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No, we don't talk at all. I wish the boys happy birthday via personal message on FB, but that is the extent of it. We chose to not have negative hurtful people in our lives any longer, though it is hard to make that choice.

Bob called his Gramma last night and while Bob has gone in to anaphylactic shock multiple times and now has celiac, his Gram and Uncle spoke continuously of Denise's "egg allergy". She isn't allergic by any stretch.

It was (and is) just so continually hurtful for all of us to work so hard to maintain a relationship with someone who thinks of you as merely a FB friend not as a sibling or aunt.

Bob's parents chose Dee and her kids over Bob a decade ago, and we tried very hard to not lay the blame of their decision on Denise. We worked hard to try and maintain a relationship with her through those years, but realized that she is a superficial person who demands love and adoration at all times. She treats strangers better than she does her own family, so we just can't have that in our lives any more.

She (and her parents) would tell us that we make too big of a deal over the kids having autism and tourette's, and shouldn't let it "get us down", but she caused a huge stink ( and still discusses) the time her son "almost" had scoliosis. It is just repeated incidents like that, which repeatedly hurt our hearts and that led us to let the relationship go its' natural course.

As with my parents and Dh's parents, if we aren't calling, writing or visiting, we don't see them, hear from them, etc... One sided relationships are exhausting and with all we have going on in our lives, we simply don't have the emotional or physical energy to maintain a fallacy of what should be a loving family relationship.

We saw a therapist who suggested us not trying so hard. He suggested that a lot of our heartbreak was from the continual rejection and disappointment of trying so hard to get our family to "like" us or "care". He said we shouldn't have to work that hard at loving family relationships. He was right. Once we stopped fighting so hard to make those relationships happen, we saw that there was no relationship at all, just us fighting to make something of nothing.

Mind you I still cry over it nearly daily. When I married DH I thought I was getting this awesome, loving family, which I always had hoped for. The reality is that we mean no more to her than the lady that bags her groceries at Publix. That was and is hard to swallow, but it is the truth.

The rest of Bob's extended family treats their immediate families like family. They get together for holidays, take family trips, call and write each other. It is so hard to see that everyone else seems to have that family and we don't. Dee has her parents down there and also Bill's entire family of aunts, cousins, parents, etc...

I thought that we could rotate holidays. I suggested us have one holiday in Fl, one year in Ohio, and then PA and even do FL twice since her parents and her are there. She laughed her loud, obnoxious laugh and said her boys weren't EVER leaving their home for the holidays. We are all welcome to visit, but Santa (who the boys are afraid of) only comes to their house. That meant that my kids would never have a holiday with their grandparents as they go where Dee is. Can you tell it still hurts??

We drove down the first few Christmas's and it was torture. The year we drove down with Ilijana was the worst. She was not even 2 and we wanted to surprise everyone Christmas morning by announcing we were expecting Milo. We woke up Christmas morning to a note from Bob's parents. They had left already (before 8am) as Dee's boys get up early for Christmas morning. They completely missed our daughters Christmas morning when we had driven over 1000 miles. We had Ilijana open her gifts from us and then headed over to Dee's. We were ignored. It hurt so badly. We never even got to tell them we were expecting DS as Dee was going on and on about how she had to get dressed up (that meant taking off her holey stained t-shirt and putting on a less stained and holey t-shirt) to go to her in-laws.

Anyway, we have a lot of hurt as you can see. This still hurts, but at least there are no new wounds.

We so desperately need some family in our lives. A few years ago we flat out asked DH's parents to visit us and especially the kids. They told us "we aren't living our lives for anyone but ourselves". The truth is they left their lives for Dee and wrote us out of their lives. They've never missed a holiday, birthday or special occasion with Dee's family. They have never even met my kids. That hurts. Dee used to say she understood. How could she?
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Old 11-14-11, 11:05 AM
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I'm sorry Nicole. I didn't mean to open up old wounds. I know how that must hurt. I didn't know that the grandparents had never met your kids though. WOW even my inlaws are not that bad and that is saying a lot.

It appears that even without the family connection you have many positive friendships in your life and sometimes friends are better than blood.
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Old 11-14-11, 11:08 AM
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Sorry for the melodramatic reply. It has been a fun but emotionally rough weekend. LOL!
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Bob's parents have technically seen Milo and Ilijana, but the last time they spent more than an hour with the kids was when Milo was 3 and Ilijana was 4.

They have never "met" the kids now that they have personalities and thoughts and feelings.

They saw the kids at a dinner for Bob's gram in 2010 but did no more than sit at a table (with 15 others) with them.

Bob's Dad was up here for a month this summer and never saw the kids, and his Mom was here this past weekend for a wedding. We didn't see her either.

Bob's Dad had the nerve to write to us before the wedding and ask us for pictures of the kids. I guess they noticed after a year that we stopped sending them emails of the kids pictures? Bob figures his Mom just wanted a picture to print out and show the rest of the family when they asked about her grandkids. She couldn't possibly look to others like the horrible mother/grandmother she is and not have a single photo of 2 of her 7 grandchildren?

Everyone in Bob's extended family just assumes his parents see us and that we must travel down to see them all the time. I guess nobody likes to hear the truth about people they think they know?

I was stunned this summer when Bob's aunt heard about my parents and said to me (with a straight face) "well at least you have Peg and Joe" . Those are Bob's parents, who have never been there a day or even an hour for us in any way. I laughed out loud when she said that, but then spent the rest of the picnic in tears in the car, realizing that we are unlovable even to our own parents and siblings. That is a hard pill to swallow, even if you KNOW that isn't how it should be.
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