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Old 11-21-04, 10:26 PM
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Thanks Glinda. I'll let you know what the embrologist says tomorrow. Gees doesnt it make you realise you have to be an advocate for your own cycles. If you don't ask and request no one else is going to for you!

The jury is still out on embryo glue over here. I know they use it at Clinics in Brisbane but they are still not convinced in the Melbourne Clinics and I think Sydney might be trialling it.
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Old 11-22-04, 07:59 AM
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I once asked my doc about the glue and he said when a study shows a sugnificant difference, he will start using it but as of now he doesn't. They are a teeny clinic anyway. JB my AH cost $350, not sure what it cost in Australia.
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Old 11-22-04, 01:48 PM
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My clinic thinks embryo glue is a true marketing scam. One of the RE's at my clinic said they have much better success rates with the culture medium they use. In fact, Glinda, when I told them your clinic charges extra for it she practically fell off her chair!!!! They think it just has a good name and a good promotional campaign behind it. Apparently, at one of the latest conferences she had a huge discussion with somebody about this and it convinced her even more that it's just good p.r.

But who knows??? Maybe there is something to it or maybe some little embies like the glue better than the alternatives. I hear most clinics keep their culture medium a huge secret, but I'm not sure how true that is. I would think if one clinic finds something that seems to be providing more +'s then they would share that info. (or at least ASRM would!).
 
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Old 11-22-04, 08:36 PM
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Maddy, I'm not sure about the marketing scam. I found out about it via word of mouth on IVF Connections. If there is any marketing going on, it's coming from Vitrolife, the company that manufactures embryo glue. My clinic actually does not advertise that they use/have embryo glue. They feel there isn't enough data out there on it. I knew they had it because someone else asked about it. Of all the negative things I can say about my clinic, charging for embryo glue is not one of them. If they have to purchase it, there is no reason why I shouldn't have to pay too.

How does your RE know they have better success rates with the medium they use? Have they used embryo glue so they can compare? When it comes down to it, it's all numbers on paper. Having actual proof by seeing women hold onto a pg when they haven't before is good enough for me. And I don't think $300 is alot to pay for that.

I think each clinic has their own secret ingredient. SIRM is known for estrogen priming. Cornell was known for co-culture. Patients share info with patients at other clinics. Most of us also change clinics so we take previous knowledge with us.

The only thing that matters is that we all get pg!!!!!!!
 
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Old 11-23-04, 11:01 PM
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It is interesting really isn't it how different clinics do things.

Firstly with regards to the culture i know my clinic is a big believer on this can increase success rates. They recently changed to a culture called 'cook' and they say they are seeing a slight increase in success rates - hey who knows if that is just coincidental but that is what they are saying.

My clinic dont believe the embryo glue does anything so don't use it.

Same again on the assisted hatching. I spoke to an embrologist yesterday and she says they dont offer this anymore cause they don't think it makes any difference. If i push and pay and really request this they could do it. She did say the less you do to an embryo the better. I need to decide in the next week if i should push for this. I find it interesting that especially many clinics in the States do this automatically. Glinda any further thoughts? I value your opinion cause i know you research and know a bit. Thanks.
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